Is There a Rebirth? The Vedological Approach

July 19, 2011 at 7:38 am (Rebirth Cause and Resolution) (, , )

The world was created by God. However, what was the need for Him to create this immense universe of unimaginable complexity? This is the question. Suppose one says that God was bored by loneliness and in order to get rid of this boredom He indulged in creation. This then would imply that God is also a victim of dissatisfaction and boredom like us. On the other hand if it is said that there is no specific reason for creation then this would imply an unsound mind because doing anything without a purpose is a sign of an unbalanced mind. It is only a mad person who cries or laughs or runs without any reason (Brahma Sutras 2.1.32). Obviously, none of these could possibly be accepted. What then is the way out?

We all know that no kind of any dissatisfaction or boredom is possible in God because He is the nature of bliss itself (Ananda). Further, the charge of an unsound mind also does not stick because God’s creation is unimaginably mysterious, complex and coordinated.  Therefore, His act of creation is not the result of an unsound mind, in other words, it is not without a purpose.

Query: God did not create the world for Himself; nor was this created without a reason. So, why did God create the world at all?

Reply: The Vedas answer this question by saying that the creation of the world is for the sake of the Jivas. It is similar to the father preparing a toy for his child.

Question: How can that be? According to the Vedas, creation is a process having many stages. For example, first the five elements (sky, air, fire, water and earth) are created and so on. The creation of the Jiva is only the last stage in this process. Then how do you say that this creation is for the sake of Jivas only?

Resolution: It is this way: the Jivas exist even before creation. Just as a pregnant woman knits socks and gloves for the child to be born, so does God create the material universe for the sake of the Jivas to be born.

Doubt: How can we believe this when we are actually seeing new Jivas being born?

Resolution: What we see is only the birth of the gross body. However, the Jiva is different from it. He is not visible.

Further Doubt: How can we say that the Jiva is different from the body?

Answer: When we are awake, we say that we are moving only when our body is moving. We say we are lying down when the body is lying down. This is because we mistake the body for ourselves. However in dreams, even though the body continues to lie on the bed, our experience is that we are wandering elsewhere. This experience would not be possible if we were not different from the body. Moreover, we know that today various organs of the body which are malfunctioning, are being replaced by inert replicas or just amputated and thrown out, or even being replaced by other organs. But the individual continues to feel that he is the same. In this way, the individual does not change even though the gross body is completely being changed. All these observations confirm that the Jiva – our very own self – is different from the body. But, when the Jiva acquires the gross body, one thinks he is born and when the Jiva leaves the body, one thinks he dies.

Doubt: This is a convincing proof for the separateness of the Jiva from the gross body. But still I could say that the Jiva is born with the gross body. In that case, the reason for the creation of the world remains unexplained. It could be explained only if the Jiva existed even before the birth of the gross body. How can that be proved?

Resolution: Notice that you need practice for even simple activities like cycling, singing or swimming. No one can do anything without practicing. But on the other hand, a newly born child successfully suckles from the breast of the mother. This action implies that the child is aware of its hunger and has the knowledge of the milk, which mitigates hunger. It also implies a knowledge of the location of the milk and the practice of suckling it. Clearly, the child didn’t practice the suckling now. So it must have practiced it before its birth, i.e. in its previous lives. In fact, we have a multitude of such examples, some of which are as follows:

1). During winter, birds migrate from the Polar Regions to warmer locations thousands of miles away. For example, Siberian birds fly to Bharatpur in Rajasthan, Ranganthittu in Karnataka and Vednatangal in Tamil Nadu. They fly at dizzy heights of about 30,000 feet and reach the same locations every year and return to Siberia by summer. How do they find their way? Scientists say they are guided by the stars, a perplexing knowledge of astronomy indeed for a bird!

2). There is a sea creature living in the Japan sea, when it becomes pregnant it travels along the coast, crosses Indonesia, Burma, Bengal and comes to the beaches of Orissa. It waits in the sea till night. Then it enters into the beach and digs a hole and lays its eggs, covers them with sand and goes back. When the chicks come out, they also wait till the night in their burrow. One of them then peeps out to verify that there is nobody to harm them. Then in one leap, it springs into the sea and all the other chicks follow it. These chicks go back to the Japan Sea after crossing Bengal, Burma, Indonesia and Thailand along the coat. Who has taught them the way?

3). A lizard can dexterously catch the flying flies the moment it comes out of the egg.

4). In the case of human, there are child prodigies in music, science, mathematics and so on. This would be impossible if had there been no previous life in which they would have undergone the appropriate practices.

This shows clearly that the Jiva must have existed even before the birth of the gross body and God creates the universe for the Jiva’s sake, so that the latter can reap the fruits of Karma done in his previous lives.

Rebirth and Vedic Activity

The concept of life after death has been the basis of all activities laid down in the Vedas, be it Agnihotra or Sandhya Vandanam.

 

 

Whether it is Puja, Bhakti, charity or good conduct (Sadaachar), everything stands only on this basis. Wise people have said that a comfortable living results from charity, intelligence from serving elder people, and longevity in life results from Ahimsa (non-violence).

Judged solely on the basis of the mere action only, charity leads to a loss of money, serving our elders results only in exhaustion and perhaps even a rebuke from the served, and Ahimsa leads to discomfort. Even then, people indulge in these actions in the hope that sometime later they would yield promise beneficial results. Since it may not be possible to enjoy the fruits of these actions in this present life itself, it would presuppose another life after this. Otherwise this Karma would be meaningless.

The Question of Heaven and Hell

Some people who believe in life after death say that heaven (Swarga) is the reward for all these good actions and Naraka (hell) is the punishment for all our bad actions. After death, those have performed meritorious deeds (Punya-Karma) go to Swarga and those who have indulged in sinful activities (Paapa) go to Naraka. In the view of such people, accepting heaven and hell is sufficient enough to explain our present Karma, and there is no need for rebirth in this world.

There may be room for this doubt if this question is viewed only superficially. But even a little reflection will demonstrate that this cannot be right. Any fruit should only be in proportion to the Karma. Therefore, for a permanent stay either in Swarga or Naraka, one should have obviously done limitless Punya or Paapa. How is possible to limitless Punya or Paapa in a limited life span? There are many people who do neither Punya nor Paapa. They just live and die. Where should they go after death? Some babies die immediately after birth. Where do they go, to Swarga or Naraka? Someone may say: “If he is born in our religion he will go to Swarga. If born in another religion he would go to Naraka.” This is obviously not correct since nobody is born in a given religion by his choice. If they were, nobody would take birth in other religions at all. If you say God is responsible for one’s birth in a given religion, then it would invite the charge of prejudice and bias on the part of God. What about people who were born before the birth of these religions? Can any sensible person say that all invariably went to hell? If the routes to heaven and hell are only one-ways, then would they not become overcrowded in due course? In fact, more basic questions are: why should God give even the present birth? Why has he kept different people at different levels of pleasure and pain? Why are some Jivas born as human beings, while some others are born as animals and birds and some even as worms in filth? Therefore, any theory not accepting rebirth is palpably absurd.

Finally, to solve this issue, it is the scriptures again which invariably come to our rescue. According to the Vedas, the Jivas experience only the ‘special’ Punya and special Paapa in Swarga and Naraka. For the remaining ordinary good or bad deeds, they have to come back to the earth, after having completed their tenure in Swarga or Naraka. If this is correct, then obviously the Jiva who has to go these two worlds has to be different from the gross body. He must be going there with some other subtle body (see Exotic India, Article of the Month, June 2011). This is because the gross body is reduced to ashes here in this world itself.

The Question of Instinct

An Objection: You have said that the spontaneous actions of newborn animals like suckling or swimming or flying are evidences of the existence of the Jiva prior to the birth of the body. Can we not say that these activities are just instinctive and thus do not prove the pre-existence of the Jiva?

Reply: Of course there is no objection to giving the name ‘instinct’ to these actions. But on the other hand, when you are asked for the reason for doing something without having practiced it before, you call it as instinct, and when you are further asked what ‘instinct’ is, you will say that it is the ability to do something without practice. This is not scientific logic. You may call it as instinct, but you still have to explain the reason for this instinct. The reason, as has been stated by the Vedas, is the practice done in previous lives.

Doubt: On this basis, a Jiva born for the first time as a monkey cannot have the monkey’s instinct. How can this be explained?

Resolution: The scriptures say that there is nothing like the birth as a monkey for the first time. Since infinite past, Jiva has been taking innumerable birth in all species – not only as a monkey. Therefore, every Jiva is already having the instincts of every species.

Objection: In that case, how is that one sees a monkey’s instinct only in a monkey, and man’s instinct only in man?

Answer: Oh no. You can certainly notice a monkey’s instinct in man also! However, it is true that man may not be able to jump from branch to branch and a monkey cannot talk. This is because an appropriate body is required for a particular instinct to express itself. For example, even though one may be an expert cook, he cannot cook without implements like vessels, hearth and so on. Though one may have the instinct to see, one cannot see if there are no eyes. Men will have women’s instincts and women men’s. In fact, we notice that many times during old age, men develop breasts and women beards. Nevertheless, in order to deliver babies the Jiva should certainly have the female body. Don’t we see that in old age one cannot indulge in sensual pleasures, though the desire could still be there? We see animals being trained to play like humans in a circus. How is this possible if they don’t have these instincts? Therefore, the scriptures clearly state that the Jiva has already taken infinite number of births in every species, thus conclusively establishing rebirth as the most significant part in the cosmic scheme of things.


This article is based almost entirely on the teachings of Param Pujya Swami Paramanand Bharati Ji.

However, any error is entirely the author’s own.

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Science explained by LORD KRISHNA!

June 4, 2008 at 6:07 am (Uncategorized) (, , , , , , )

Since the time Newton attempted to explain planetary orbits through the laws of gravity and Motion, the scientific belief that the totality of existence can be explained through science has been gaining momentum. Correspondingly the hand of God on the canvas of the universe has been becoming dimmer and dimmer. Prior to Newton, God was understood to be the creator and controller of the universe. Newtonian physics relegated Him to the role of a creator, a mere clockmaker who had no power over nature, which was governed by laws. Darwin’s origin of natural species proposed in 1859 provided the intellectual justification for removing God even from the role of the creator. The intellectual climate of that time embraced Darwinian evolution not so much because of its scientific basis, but because of its ideological implications. This covert agenda to exile God from the academic world was made explicit by Frederic Nietzsche through his jolting “God is dead” proclamation. Today almost all the academic textbooks and journals as well as commercial science fiction novels and movies portray evolution as a proven fact, as an unquestionable scientific reality. Time and time again we get to hear recycled versions of the same old tale of human and universal origins: the universe originated with a big bang, unicellular life evolved fortuitously on the earth in a primordial soup, life forms evolved to increasing levels of complexity, and gradually  all the flora and fauna on our planet – including we humans – came about. And concomitantly the religious world reviews of universal origins involving God are almost instantly rejected as pre-scientific superstitions.

This materialistic worldview has gained widespread acceptance not so much due to its scientific validation as due to its vigorous propagation. Moreover the impressive technological accomplishments of science – catering to the mass demands for instant relief and pleasure – have created among people a naïve, unquestioning faith that whatever science says must be true.

But as the harmful effects of technology are being increasingly recognized, so also are the fallacies of the scientific worldview that underlies these technologies.

More and more people – including acclaimed scientists – are realizing that reductionistic theories overlook a cardinal principle of science: theories should be based on objective evidences, no matter how unexpected, and not subjective beliefs, no matter how popular. The evidence uncovered by science – both at the macroscopic and the microscopic level – portrays a picture of the universe that is strikingly different from what most of us have been taught to believe as science.

Observation of the fine harmony of the universal laws, the amazing complexity and the purposeful, wonderful organization of animate and inanimate life on different levels, has started a progressively strengthening movement for the respiritualization of science.

This website is not anti-science, it is pro-humanity. Our human race deserves to know the truths about its origin and purpose and that is what this site will provide –by combining modern scientific research with timeless Vedic wisdom. The value and glory of Vedic wisdom has been recognized by many eminent thinkers. We give here just a few quotes:

                                 einstein - world scientist
“We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to
         count, without which no worthwhile scientific
                  discovery could have been made. “

                           ~ Albert Einstein

After the conversations about Indian philosophy, some of the ideas of Quantum Physics that had seemed so crazy suddenly made much more sense”.

W. Heisenberg (German Physicist, 1901-1976)
“The Vedanta and the Sankhya hold the key to the laws of mind and thought process which are co-related to the Quantum Field, i.e. the operation and distribution of particles at atomic and molecular levels.”

Prof. Brian David Josephson (1940 – ) Welsh physicist, the youngest Nobel Laureate   

” It is India that gave us the ingenious method of expressing all numbers by ten symbols, each receiving a value of position as well as an absolute value, a profound and important idea which appears so simple to us now that we ignore its true merit. But its very simplicity, the great ease which it has lent to all computations, puts our arithmetic in the first rank of useful inventions, and we shall appreciate the grandeur of this achievement the more when we remember that it escaped the genius of Archimedes and Appollonius, two of the greatest men produced by antiquity.”

Pierre Simon de Laplace, French mathematician, philosopher, and astronomer,

 

Vedas(Old Sanskrit writings ) say that when SCIENCE ENDS SPIRITUALITY BEGINS!Most of the scientific conclusions now being put forth by some very acknowledged scientists were already mentioned by LORD KRISHNA in HIS SONG, the BHAGWAD GITA.

Vedanta Teaching Peace

At the beginning of creation, Krishna spoke the knowledge of the Vedas, which guides souls on the journey of life and ultimately back to their spiritual home.

Lord Krishan reveals HIMSELF as GOD
From time to time that knowledge becomes diluted or changed. To revive it, Krishna came to this world 5,000 years ago and spoke Bhagavad-gita to His friend Arjuna. The Gita contains detailed teachings on the supreme, infinite soul (God), the finite souls, karma (work in this world), time, and creation.

Lord Saves us
Bhagwad GITA was spoken by Krishna and written by Vyasadeva around 3100 BC, ie 3800 years before Mohammed and 2800 years before Jesus. Krishna was quite famous all around the world just like HIS previous avtaar RAM. It is said that the LORD(GOD-Mahavishnu) who has no ego no form but yet ever multiplying in forms comes to earth to save HIS own devotees(Good people – not any specific religion) from evil deors of Shaitaan and guide them to a satisfactory and ideal way of living. Everytime thus when Lord appears in his various AVTAARS on this stage of earth to play his own DRAMA, the uncanny and the unwise people on earth think of it as a new religion and caste and recoginise HIM just by few names. How thus people with such ego can understand GOD?

Each of us is one of the innumerable spiritual souls who emanate from Krishna.KRISHNA said to Arjuna before he revealed to him, the HOLY SONG OF GOD, “O Arjuna, the preaching that I am going to give you today has been already spoken to Vivaswan(The Sun of our Galaxy), some 140 Yugas ago( 1 Yuga is 1,27000 human years)”. Krishna further said that our Sun Vivaswaan is not the only Sun. There are around 10,000 more suns in other galaxies. HE said that HE controls the whole Universe just by using 1% of HIS entire potential. There are millions of galaxies within HIM (which we all live in) and Millions of species all round the universe. He said firther that though there are other living entities, Humans are the most foremost creation made to “UNITE with GOD” . This human birth is attained after several births of pain and agaony and yes “Good merits”. And most of us loose this form after death because of our BAD ACTIONS in this birth.

 

 

Some people dont beleive in re-birth as their religion doesnt allow them to. But how then their religion allow them to beleive in Ghosts and Magical Genis? Its a matter of simple logic. Man tends to change everything GOD has created and taught…its our ego. But GOD forgives.

Krishna has mentioned how HE created the world. This explanation talliles exactly with the researches of the scientists.
Krishna did miracles since infant age

“The Big Bang” – As explained by Lord Krishna…even before science came to existence!
Krishna Says:

The galaxies of this universe are all floating on a huge ocean (The Milky Ocean where LORD is SEATED). He emanualted HIMSELF as the four handed “NARAYANA”(Narah means the spiritual waters in Sanskrit and the physical position is termed as “Ayana” so “Narayana”). HE then created a seed(A big EGG) and as Narayana seated himself within the egg. He then divided the egg into two (Here the blast occurs) that is the “Heaven – Swarg or Jannat” and other “Hell – Nark or Jahhannum”.  According to Lord Krishna there are 28000 Hells which souls are sent to repent for their past actions. There is one Swarg where humans go for their good merits enjoy for 100 years(which in uncalculable in human years- almost permanent for us) of Demigods (Devas, Adideva) and then come back to life in forms as per their merits. Some souls become angels or devas or farishtays some become humans. Similarly the turmour in hell is also not permanent and then souls come back as animals or pisachas. Then again htis life is counted for merits and the cycle continues.
Thus this prooved “Energy or Shakti” is Constant. Shakti is Lords own energy  a female form of the Lord HIMSELF as lord has also explained how HE divided HIMSELF into female and male form and then created “Viraag” -(pain caused by seperation of these two entities “male and female”).
After creating these two halves Lord set to create other planets and galaxies. HE then expanded HIMSELF to three planary expansions “Brahma (to create planets, Vishnu(to pamper and manage the creation) Shiva)” 
Krishna expanded as Brahma Vishnu Shiva    Vaikuntha or Jannat
Planet of GOD:
Vaikuntha
(or the ageless planet) is explained as the “Planet of GOD”. Once we become one with HIM leaving aside our egos and bad actions we move to higher planet of Krishna (Vaikuntha) where we are form and no form like GOD and have no age. Rivers flow under green gardens, sweet music played by Gandharvas or Cupids, Krishna says further that there are thousands of “Laxshmis” serving HIM.

“That supreme abode of Mine is not illumined by the sun or moon, nor by fire or electricity. Those who reach it never return to this material world.” –Sri Krishna, Bhagavad-gita 15.6
Can u imagine Krishna spoke about electricity 5000 years back!

What science agrees:
We can admittedly find nothing in physics or chemistry that has even a remote bearing on consciousness. Yet all of us know that there is such a thing as consciousness, simply because we have it ourselves. Hence consciousness must be part of nature, or, more generally, of reality, which means that, quite apart from the laws of physics and chemistry, as laid down in quantum theory, we must also consider laws of quite a different kind. —Niels Bohr, 1922 Nobel Laureate, Physics

Ordinary science cannot study spirit and its characteristic, consciousness, which are outside the purview of matter. Spirit can be studied through a spiritual science, such as that given in the Vedas.
Besides consciousness, other evidence suggests that our identity is separate from our bodies—for example, past-life memories and out-of-body experiences.

While God is infinite, we souls are small and are subordinate to Him. We exist to serve Him in love. Our intrinsic nature—our dharma—is to serve. That quality cannot be separated from us, just as heat cannot be separated from fire and sweetness cannot be separated from sugar. We will find full satisfaction only in re-discovering our unique service to God.

Reaching the Goal
Lord Krishna says about:
Material Bodies

In the material world, we accept bodies different from ourselves. The Vedas tell us:
Samsara

  • there are 8,400,000 kinds of bodies born of the soul’s illusory desire to experience varieties of material enjoyment
  • although we dwell within the body, Krishna is the body’s actual owner and controller; for example, He decides when we’ll leave it
  • the elements of the body—skin, bones, blood, hair, etc.—are all repulsive on their own; we find the body attractive only because of the force of material illusion
  • material bodies undergo six transformations: birth, growth, sustenance, production of by-products, dwindling, and death
  • the body is a machine made of matter by which we, the soul, try unsuccessfully to find full satisfaction
  • our actions in the human body determine what kind of body we’ll get next

plight of the world

Even after so many creations and dilusions, Lord Krishna says about what HE has to do:
“The Supreme Lord has nothing to do, and no one is found to be equal to or greater than Him, for everything is done naturally and systematically by His multifarious energies.”

KRISHNA belongs to ALL of us: Whats in the name?
Just as we may have different names according to our various roles—Mommy, Dr. Jones, Sweetheart, Professor, Your Honor—so does God. And since God is unlimited, He has innumerable names.The names can be generic terms, such as “God” or “the Absolute Truth.”They can be in Sanskrit, such as Govinda, Gopala, or Shyamasundara.They can be in other languages, such as Yahweh and Allah.

The name Krishna, which means “the all-attractive One, ” implies that each of us has an eternal relationship with God and we are always drawn either to Him directly or to His energies.

What is an Avtaar ?

People who have not learnt or read about this concept would be reluctant at the first time to acknowledge this from a normal human being.

But read what LORD HIMSELF Says. Before you read please close your eyes and think if you can really question the POWER OF GOD(KRISHNA, ALLAH, YEHWAH)?
krishna is all forms and no formkrishna expands

Krishna expands into innumerable forms, each of whom is Krishna Himself. Being all-powerful He can expand Himself into forms with the same power and characteristics He possesses, without diminishing Himself in the least. Krishna is likened to the original candle that lights other candles of the same luminosity.

Krishna expands Himself to enjoy in a variety of ways through relationships with His innumerable devotees. Some of His expansions manage the material world, but Krishna in His original form remains aloof from the affairs of this world, ever enjoying with His associates in His spiritual land.

Krishna’s first expansion is Balarama, His elder brother in Goloka Vrindavan. From Balarama come all other expansions.

Although Krishna produces many forms identical to Himself, He remains one undivided entity.

Scientific explanation of expansion given by KRISHNA HIMSELF
Universal Management

To carry on work in the material sphere, Krishna expands Himself or incarnates. Each expansion or avatar possesses some of Krishna’s qualities in full. They appear with forms and emotions different from Krishna’s, and They carry out specific activities. They are uniquely named according to these characteristics.

Krishna creates the material world in response to our desire to try to enjoy outside of our relationship with Him. Everything here is created, sustained, and ultimately destroyed by His expansions.

Ultimately everyone reach Vaikuntha, “the place of no anxiety.”

 avtaars

Krishna’s Avatars
 Krishna repeatedly comes to this world in various forms to perform specific functions. Such avatars distinguish themselves by performing extraordinary feats. They are known by references to them in the Vedas, including Srimad-Bhagavatam, which recounts histories of several prominent incarnations from the beginning of creation.

The islamic versionof KRISHNA’s coming is mentioned in Mehdi Moud a persian writing.
The ulltimate teacher is called a “Imam Mahdi” – who is a part of GOD HIMSELF

Below we see how the humble and most powerful LORD KRISHNA comes everytime in forms to help mankind:

GOD has no ego - HE takes forms to save usSupersou- Paratma or Allah

Unlike normal human beings KRISHNA or GOD doesnt have any ego.
He comes every Yuga or Age to save mankind from expanding kingdom of Devil.
Incarnations

  • come to show spiritual practices for a specific age in cyclical time
  • come to give a glimpse of life in the spiritual world, and their actions become topics for discussion to liberate devotees
  • come to create and control the material worlds
  • take charge of the universe’s secondary creation (by Brahma), its maintenance (by Vishnu), and its destruction (by Siva)

Some points here to clarify to other religions that Hindus dont have 36000000 GODS.

Universal Managers

Some souls are invested with extraordinary power to manage the universe. They are known as devas or demigods. Although they display godlike powers, they are not God. They are finite souls empowered by God to act on His behalf. Unseen by us, they control, among other things, the forces of nature.

Universal manager

Knowing the Lord!

Krishna says that His opulence is unlimited and thus we can see Him everywhere, from the great cosmic laws to the buds of a flower. Here’s a sample of the many ways He suggests we can perceive His presence:

  • I am the taste of water
  • I am the light of the sun and moon
  • I am the consciousness of living beings
  • Of bodies of water I am the ocean
  • Of sacrifices I am the chanting of the holy names
  • Of immovable things I am the Himalayas
  • Of weapons I am the thunderbolt

    “I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me. The wise who perfectly know this engage in My devotional service and worship Me with all their hearts.”

The word “Brahman,” or simply “Brahma,” is used in a generic sense to mean spirit. God, the individual souls, and the spiritual effulgence of God are all referred to as Brahman (its Sanskrit root means “the greatest”).

When the word is used in the context of Brahman, Paramatma, and Bhagavan—the three phases of the Absolute Truth—it refers to the impersonal effulgence of God (Bhagavan). Brahman is also called the “brahma-jyoti”, or “spiritual light.” or “Noor Elahi” It is fills the spiritual world and, when transformed by God, becomes the primordial elements of the material world. Thus it is said to pervade everything.

 
 

 

 

 

 

Thoreu - American Thinker

“Whenever I have read any part of the Vedas, I have
felt that some unearthly and unknown light illuminated
me. In the great teaching of the Vedas, there is no
touch of sectarianism. It is of all ages, climbs, and
nationalities and is the royal road for the attainment
of the Great Knowledge.”  ~ Thoreau (American Thinker)

 

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